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STREET TALK:
Week of March 14 - March 20, 2003

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Some of y'all are so full of yourselves that you just can't take a little ribbing now and then, can ya? And some of y'all are so full of gas we like to stick a pin in ya from time to time just to provide the troops the pleasure of watching you deflate. (You're welcome to stick pins in us, too, and dontcha know you do it regular.)

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Congratulations to Michael Rowley of Grand Timber Lodge in Breckenridge, Colorado for shattering all existing sales records by selling over $700,000 in business in February, 2003. Michael has sold over 1.5 million in the last three months and is currently a finalist for In-House Salesperson of the Year at ARDA (American Resort Development Association) Convention next month. Grand Timber Lodge has nine finalists in the running for ARDA Gold Awards this year including repeat winner Dave Stroeve for Director of Sales.

Grand Timber Lodge also had a record breaking sales month in February, 2003 with a whopping 3.9 million in net sales! The previous record held was 3.6 million in sales back in March, 2002. KUDOS!!!

Congratulations also to Bluegreen Resorts, whose Creative Services team has demonstrated just how good they are with an extraordinarily impressive showing at this year's ADDY Awards (the advertising community's version of the Oscars). Despite stiff competition from some of the top ad agencies and design firms in South Florida, Bluegreen walked away with nine awards (including a Best of Show/Judges Award) at the recent ADDY Awards, hosted by the Ad Club of Greater Fort Lauderdale in association with the American Advertising Federation. KUDOS!!! Here's the breakdown:
Gold:

  • Bluegreen Vacation Club Sales Pitch Book
  • Sampler Plus Owner's Kit
  • Bluegreen's Corporate Display (the one you see in the atrium)
  • Lifestyles Summer 2002 Cover
  • President's Select Invitation

Silver:

  • Bluegreen " Live Play Grow" Corporate Video
  • Big Cedar Wilderness Club mailer
  • LeisurePath Logo

Judges Award: Sampler Plus Owner's Kit

Hot on the heels of all those ADDY Awards, Bluegreen has been awarded a total of 23 Silver ARDA Awards, and they're going for the gold...

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A question from you: --" Could you please post the top timeshare companies in order of highest overall revenue last year? It would be interesting for the public to see who actually is the top company in this industry. Marriott, Fairfield, Starwood, Sunterra, Hilton, Disney... how do they stack up in sales and dollars?"

Well, for public companies like Marriott, Starwood, Disney, etc. that shouldn't be hard to figure out. But what about private companies like Westgate and Berkley Group? They don't have to release their financial information. So how do you figure them into the equation? And how about the big European companies, like Anfi del Mar?

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Dennis Bailey - March 10, 2003

we are sorry to announce the passing of Dennis Bailey, 54, a distinguished member of Fairfield's Sedona sales team, an honors graduate of the New York Military Academy at Cornwall on the Hudson and Howard University in Washington, D.C., and a good friend to many throughout Fairfield's organization. Dennis passed away on Tuesday, March 10th, and is survived by his twin brother Dr. Ronald Bailey, his daughter Marie Chantel and his wife Antje and her three children Christian, Claudia and Monika.

Dennis was on the original team that opened Fairfield Sedona in 1999. He earned top Sales Associate honors for 4 consecutive years at Sedona and attended President’s Club each year as an employee at Fairfield. He was a superb leader and was truly respected and admired by his many friends and colleagues.

Most important, Dennis was an exceptionally warm and kind person who lived his life to the fullest with love, courage, grace, kindness and style. He embraced everyone he met with open arms and a generous spirit, and was widely know for his favorite sayings like “a smile is a very inexpensive way to improve your looks," and " it's going to be alright." Plus, his enthusiasm for Fairfield shone brightly when always signing his monthly goals as the King of FairShare.

A celebration of Dennis Bailey’s life will be held at St. John Vianney Catholic Church in Sedona on March 21, at 11am. Please keep Dennis and his family in your thoughts and prayers during this difficult time.

In lieu of flowers, the family requests that any personal donations be made to Sedona Medical Center, 3700 W. Hwy 89A. Sedona AZ 86336 (attention Dr. Deborah Lindquist), or Borrows Neurological Institute, 2910 N 3rd Ave, Phoenix AZ 85013 (attention Dr. Volker Sonntag).



IN THE WESTERN Half of the USA:
CALIFORNIA:
LAKE TAHOE: On the agenda for the Planning Commission:
  • HARBORSIDE AT HOMEWOOD (EIAQ-3755)
    Proposal to add three additional tourist accommodation units to be sold and used on an interval ownership basis. A total of 11 timeshare intervals will be created.
    Project location: East side of Highway 89 (West Lake Blvd.) and south of Silver Street, Homewood.
    Applicant/Owner: Charles R. Kelley, Mark Kubinski/Nathan Topol
  • TAHOE SANDS RESORT REDEVELOPMENT (EIAQ-3696)
    Proposed redevelopment of existing resort increasing the number of units to 86 contained in five separate buildings in a phased development.
    Project location: 6610 North Lake Blvd., Tahoe Vista
    Applicant: Kaufman Planning & Consulting, P. O. Box 253, Carnelian Bay, CA 96140 (530-546-4402)
    Owner: Tahoe Sands Timeshare Owners Assoc.,

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COLORADO: American Skiing Co.'s latest push to sell fractional ownership in the Steamboat Grand is producing results. Fourteen transactions totaling approximately $750,000 closed in early February. You may remember that ASC announced in December last year that it had hired a new 15-person sales staff and would begin selling eighth-share interests instead of the quartershares it had marketed since the hotel opened in October 2000. An ASC executive said the company had closed $37 million in sales as of December 2001. Sales languished throughout 2002 with only a trickle closing. The most recent momentum has come about as a result of ASC renegotiating the terms of a loan with Textron Corp., with the new terms establishing a marketing budget to reinvigorate sales.

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HAWAII:

OAHU: According to an article in Pacific Business News, Marriott had 85,000 timeshare visitors to Hawaii last year and is certain to build on that number in 2003. Regional VP of Sales and Marketing Robert Calhoun said referrals make up 40% of their sales, with weeks at the Ko Olina property selling from $27,000 to $50,000 a week, depending on ocean or mountain view. He also said that sales agents have doubled their sales budget since they are able to bring customers over to the resort to show the product. (It looks like they're now closing at 33%- Kudos to y'all!) Next: They want to start marketing to Japanese visitors and establish a presence in Japan.

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NEVADA:
LAS VEGAS: Jack Corteway, the developer of the old Royal Aloha timeshare resort on the northeast corner of Desert Inn and Debbie Reynolds Drive, has sold the 60,000-square-foot parcel to a Houston developer who plans to build an 18-story, 65-unit upscale condominium tower on the property. So what happens to the owners at the Royal Aloha?


Consolidated Resorts has announced another new resort in Vegas. (That's besides the Tahiti, the one that burned down during construction recently.) The new resort will be called Tahiti Village, and will be built on 20 acres at Las Vegas Blvd. South and Arby Av. Consolidated plans to break ground in September on the $200 million project, a 580-unit development of two-bedroom units, with presales scheduled to begin in August or September.



Leisure Industries (previously Mego) completed the first phase of the restructuring of its $100 million portfolio of consumer loans. This initial transaction enables the Company to sell its portfolio of land receivables held by FINOVA and Textron Financial Corporation (TFC) to Land Finance Company, an affiliate of Textron, for $25 million. The transaction reduces the Company's receivable portfolio by $25 million and removes $25 million of notes payable from the Company's balance sheet. This is in line with Leisure's steady work to cut the fat from the company and bring it back to profitability. Says Floyd W. Kephart, Chairman and CEO: " We believe our reorganization is complete. Our operating costs have been significantly reduced, which will be reflected in our first quarter operating results. We will have successfully reviewed and taken all appropriate action on financial reports as of December 31, 2003."

So far we admit to being impressed with their actions. If all continues to go well, Leisure will be a lean mean machine when they start aggressively ramping up operations again with their timeshare division.

PAHRUMP: Timeshare at a " house of ill repute" ? In Pahrump? Better check it out: (external) This is no two-bit operation

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IN THE EASTERN Half & Midwest of the USA:

MASSACHUSETTS:

  • THE BERKSHIRES: Brody Mountain Ski Resort's owner, Brian L. Fairbank, plans to sell the resort to an undisclosed developer who will build a $40 million to $50 million timeshare project called Snowy Owl Resort there, if all necessary permits can be obtained.

    Fairbank, who bought Brodie from longtime owner James W. Kelly in 1999 and had planned an extensive resort, including a water park, fitness center, retail shops and at least one restaurant, told the Planning Board early this month that the new owner would scrap plans for any commercial development beyond timeshare condominiums. He said he could not name the buyer because the purchase-and-sale agreement is still subject to the development company's board of directors' approval, which is expected to happen next month. According to the concept plan for the 589-acre property, the pro-ject would include tennis courts, indoor and outdoor swimming pools, a clubhouse at what is now the base ski lodge, a miniature golf course, a basketball court and playgrounds, all for the private use of the time-share buyers.

    If necessary permits can be obtained, Fairbank said construction could begin this fall on the first phase of the project, which would include 36 condominium units, clubhouse improvements, a new swimming pool and new tennis courts.

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MISSOURI:
  • GALENA: The owner of an Arkansas-based timeshare resale business agreed to pay $25,000 in restitution and penalties under a Stone County Circuit Court order obtained by Attorney General Jay Nixon. Resort Mart Inc., also known as Century 21 Resort Mart, was operated by John Dunn, who accepted up-front fees for a listing agreement. Nixon got complaints from consumers who purchased the service but whose property was never sold.

    Consumers who signed a listing agreement with the company may file a claim for reimbursement with the Attorney General's office by May 3. Call the Consumer Protection Hotline at 1-800-392-8222.

  • BRANSON: There's a resale outfit in Branson named Worldnet Brokerage. They offer the usual resale inventory, and they also offer a rebate deal. You know, one of those " Buy from us, get the rebate coupon and if you carefully follow the rules you'll get your purchase price back after 5 years." Yeah, right.

    They explain it this way: " Rebates Charges a premium based on a percentage of the face value of the rebate coupon. Merchant obtains the rebate coupon from Rebates who has contracted with a trust to administer funds with high yield investments.

    " Of course, many forget to file their claim or will error (sic) in the procedure. Those who remember and comply will receive their rebate guaranteed."

    Who is Rebates, and with what trust have they contracted? The website doesn't say. Has this affiliation been in business long enough for anyone to have claimed the promised rebate?

    Worldnet also offers a limited number of travel club programs for " the ridiculously low price" of only $599. That IS a more reasonably priced offer than you'll get at other presentations, but they give no information about the Club on their website. No disclosure at all. Who is the fulfiller? What is the name of the travel club? Who provides the certs? Etc.

    In the " Who We Are" section they mention that they have 22 years experience. Let's see, 22 years divided by the 3 people listed equals a little over 7 years each. OK. You've got Jarry McCoy as the Sales Director, Suzanne Stacer as the Listing Manager and DiAnn M. as the Office Manager. (DiAnn M.? No last name?)

    Maybe they're a fully legit outfit, but that rebate deal has a suspicious smell...

    And hey guys, lose that banner where you use Bill and Hillary to advertise timeshare resales. It's against the law to use someone's image in a commercial enterprise without their permission, and anyway it looks stupid.

  • An observation from you: --" A word about timeshare in Branson. I have observed over the past 6 years a few things about timeshare in Branson. One, the State of Missouri does not require a license to operate so those individuals who cannot get a license in another state have gravitated to Branson and we know who those types are. Secondly, Branson suffers from Good Old Boy management, if you are ethnic or female it is very difficult to obtain a management position in Branson. I think there are a few woman in some DOS or VP positions but parity is not there. Lastly, Rich Huffman is not the sole developer on the Branson Landing project, in fact that project may never get off the ground since it has been lingering for over 2 years now with no development. The Monorail is not going in and there is doubt the landing will even get going because of lack of funds and the economy. There is also a pending class action lawsuit from some of the current business owners in the downtown area that are not happy with the way city officials handled the buyout of some of their friends' businesses, specificaly Demetris... rumor has it they paid him 4.5 million for his property on Taneycomo then sold it back to him for 400 thousand.. is there something wrong with this picture? All in all Branson is great place but too many people working in timeshare that should not be in the industry. They need a timeshare license from the State Insurance Department to weed out the undesirables."
    • YOUR COMMENTS:
    • March 15: --" Whoever thought they knew something about the Branson Landing project …doesn’t. In fact, Mr. Huffman’s first name is Rick, not Rich. A small error followed by a long series of bigger errors. The Branson Landing project is moving forward and is only waiting on the Governor to sign the Tax Increment Financing agreement so the bonds can be sold. The city still owns Mr. Demetris restaurant and Demetris isn’t interested in buying it back at $400,000 or $100,000… trust me. As for the small group of “good ol boy’s” who want the city to go back to the way it was in the 80’s when they could control everything…the cat is out of the bag. This group of people seems to be afraid of competing with the new attractions, restaurants and hotels that are interested in the new waterfront and convention center project. Apparently in their world the pie stays the same size and never gets any bigger. There are a huge number of people supporting this project and yes it has been a long hard battle. When you are trying to do a $300,000,000 + project in a town of 6,000 people it takes time. Yes Mr. Huffman and his company HCW Development have partners, most projects this size do. HCW have been selected the developer by the city of Branson. I’m not in the timeshare business myself, but the author of this news flash should spend more time selling their project and less time listening to gossip in the bars."

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VERMONT:
Vermont's Attorney General William H. Sorrell has come down hard on Cape Canaveral Tour & Travel Inc., charging the company with running a fraudulent timeshare telemarketing campaign to Vermont consumers. The suit was filed in April last year, and the employee-defendants were Lory Walker and Michael Dwyer. Canaveral has agreed to pay up to $460,000 to settle the charges. It's the same old song and dance: Canaveral generates leads by inviting consumers attending local fairs, etc. to register for a drawing. Then they call the people up, tell them they've won a vacation drawing to be held to promote the company's resorts-- but what they're really doing is offering a vacation package at discount rates that the people can get from any travel agent. And they don't mention that the whole purpose of the thing is to get you to go on a timeshare presentation.

The company is now required to place ads in Vermont newspapers, offering full refunds to the 690 consumers who paid $550 each for the vacation packages. The company also must mail the refund offer to 450 of those consumers who paid for a vacation but have not taken it, as well as pay the state $80,000.

If you're going to be deceptive and perpetrate fraud, we wish y'all would at least be a little more creative so when you get caught it would be exciting to report on it.

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SOUTH CAROLINA:
  • MYRTLE BEACH: Marriott has announced the development of a new oceanfront resort in Myrtle Beach-- Marriott's OceanWatch Villas at Grande Dunes. Marriott began construction in January on the proposed 374-villa vacation ownership resort, which is targeted to open for initial occupancy in June 2004.

    Marriott’s OceanWatch Villas is part of Burroughs & Chapin's prestigious 2,200-acre master planned community called Grande Dunes, which includes luxury residential homes, a Roger Rulewich Group-designed 18-hole golf course, a tennis center and a full-service Marriott hotel also under development.

    How will Burroughs & Chapin's entrance into timeshare with their South Beach Resort be affected by Marriott's development of a hotel and timeshare resort at the Grande Dunes property? And how are things going at the South Beach Resort, anyhow? Haven't heard about them in awhile...

  • HILTON HEAD: Spicebush at Sea Pines and Swallowtail at Sea Pines will be leaving the Marriott system because they don't meet quality standards for Marriott. So we wonder: Who will acquire management contracts at those properties, and how it will affect MVCI owners at those resorts?

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Rumors rumors, who's got the rumors...
  • Is there any truth to the rumor that " the Fuhrer" of HGVC in Orlando may be asked to pack his bags at last? Word is that with the exit of several top producers (and more are interviewing elsewhere) morale is at an all time low. Are the same old 5 reps still getting the sweet tours? If so, how sad for other good writers who can't get a fair shot. Also, we hear that the Huge Spiffs are a thing of the past. Does anyone know if the big change could be taking place soon or is it just a juicy rumor? Last but not least, one source says: --" If HGVC wants relationship selling, why are their new managers all inexperienced in this selling technique (Or from the other side of the tracks so to speak)? How can they help their team improve? So sad, great product, lots of issues."
    • YOUR COMMENTS:
    • March 14: --" The Fuhrer at HGVC Orlando is going nowhere! He has full support of Hilton top management. I have watched him " run over" sales rep's for years and most rep's just " hit the door" . The only place he is going is Suntrust Bank to deposit those big, fat paychecks that you rep's made for him! Hilton is the best product around, they just treat sales people like crap!"
    • AND: --" It is really too bad that corporate management allows site management to desecrate a the sales organization before taking action. HGVC has a " Specialty Line" . I was on it when I worked there. I was as high as 5 or 6 at one time, but I rarely ever took out a " Specialty Line" tour because the the rotation always started back at the top the next day. Therefore, the same 2-3 people at the top of the wheel kept getting the " Specialty Line" tours each day. There were rarely ever enough " Specialty Line" tours in a given day to turn the " Specialty Line" wheel. The system was definitely programmed to serve 1 or 2 people. I griped about it (and other unfair HGVC practices) and eventually got canned, even though I had a high VPG. It is too bad, HGVC has lost many great sales consultants who could sell without heat. Some, like myself, have left the business altogether and are doing very well in new home and general real estate sales. I was Rookie of the Year in my organization last year. Ego has always been more important with the " Fuhrer" than production."
  • Is there any truth to the rumor that Ben and Pat Jeter have finally filed for bankruptcy protection for the Ingleside Resort in Staunton, Virginia? Former Sales Associates say the resort is now closed. Anyone have solid info?
    • YOUR COMMENTS:
    • March 15: --" In a conversation with Ben Jeter, Ingleside's owner on March 14, 2003 this writer, a former salesman, was told that they had originally filed for Chapter Eleven protection on February 22, 2003 hoping for reorganization but that the outstanding debts were so enormous that Chapter Seven followed almost immediately. Jeter told me that the owners of Massanutten Resort hold the main note on Ingleside and have agreed to eventually pay out all creditors including the employees who were left holding the bag for their salaries and sales commissions on March 1, 2003. No one has been paid yet and they are all madder than hell. Jeter also told me that he tried everything he could to keep the resort afloat but he was never able to put together enough capital to keep the resort in proper shape. The timeshare sales office is closed, the hotel is closed down as well as the golf course, but this writer has seen golfers playing there daily for free. Evidently the bankruptcy court has not appointed receivers to properly attend to things."
    • AND: --" Ben Jeter did not make payments on a friendly loan from Dice Hammer (Great Eastern Resorts / Massnutten,etc.). Jeter did not pay insurance premiums, taxes, etc. and Dice had to step in pay them to protect his ability to get his money back. Only a matter of time till ...Dice buys the property."
  • Is there any truth to the rumor that some Cendant suits were seen at Pacific Monarch Resorts' headquarters in California? Is something in the works there?

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Idle Thoughts:
  • If you're a heat merchant looking for a new home, go to Mexico and hook up with the Mayan Palace. Not only will they welcome you, they'll help you fine tune your techniques. See our International page under the Mexico heading...
  • In an article in Hotel & Motel Management Magazine, Cendant CEO Henry Silverman is quoted as saying that the weekly-interval model for timeshare will be eliminated within five to 10 years in favor of points-based timeshare usage (CLARIFICATION: Please note that he was talking about the timeshare model itself, not about RCI-- see the article here). Anyhow, we guess all those RCI Points sales reps who've been pounding TS owners into buying points by saying their Weeks ownership will be worthless in five years weren't lying after all? And that, regardless that Silverman was referencing developer weeks, when RCI says don't worry about it because we love our Weeks owners and aim to serve them well, maybe they're just marking time? The principle is the same. Just like The Shadow (a FREE newsletter) reported after the ARDA Convention nearly 3 years ago, one way or another RCI and the major timeshare companies aim to make your fixed week interval obsolete. Owners of the world Unite! You have nothing to lose but...
    • YOUR COMMENTS:
    • March 14, from RCI: --" In responding to a question on the future development of various vacation ownership products, Cendant Corporation President, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Henry R. Silverman stated at the recent ALIS conference in Los Angeles that `...the weekly-interval model for timeshare will be eliminated within five to 10 years in favor of points-based timeshare usage.'

      Mr. Silverman's comment forecasts that developers, particularly new entrants into the timeshare industry, will increasingly follow the lead of developers such as Fairfield Resorts and Trendwest Resorts in offering points-based vacation ownership interests. With respect to exchange, RCI, Cendant's timeshare exchange company, will continue to meet the market demands of its clients and members over the long term offering both traditional week-for-week exchange services as well as points-based exchange.
      "
    • AND: --" New developers cannot follow Fairfield and Trendwest. Points programs are fine if you are only interested in making a profit on the development side. If you want to also run your marketing and sales program on a profitable basis, most of us cannot afford the lower VPG and closing ratios that those programs are running. Only the large public Corporations can afford to not cash flow. Thus it is my opinion that independents are better off to sell traditional product, and to switch to I.I. , if RCI does not service owners of these products to the satifaction of these enties."
    • March 17: --" Amen to the comment that only the big public developers like Trendwest and Fairfield can offer their product the way they do. Their strategy is all for them, the proverbial " throw it against the wall" . Doesn't necessarily work very well for the vacationing family. Besides being capable of changing the point requirement and forcing the owner to have to buy more points forever to vacation, the developer always will remain in control. Just my opinion I could be wrong."
    • AND: --" What I object to most about this whole subject is the spurious and self-righteous argument they use that points were developed for the benefit of timeshare owners, to give them the flexibility they have been begging for. What a crock! It was done for the considerable financial benefit of the companies, and any actual benefit to timeshare owners is ancillary to that. It's just another example of `the big lie': tell it big enough and often enough and people will believe it."
    • AND: --" I don't understand where you are coming from. Those of you who don't believe in this type of program have obviously never owned one or truly compared the two. The ethics and owner base of companies like Fairfield and Trendwest show that the program works. The fact the owners have the say and that the credit values are set, give owners the rule, unlike the traditional or floating week concept, who has the control there. I personally think all of you out there who think that the future of timeshare is the old way need to look at the future and the way people vacation, no one has the inclination anymore to set themselves up for the same thing all the time, every year, and not having the flexability to exchange, trade, and vacation as they wish."
    • AND: --" In their attempt to compete with the more flexible points programs available from companies like Fairfield or Trendwest, some fixed-week companies are pitching heat that is almost criminal. Not just the Mom and Pops but larger corporations too. We hear it all the time from fixed weeks owners who come in to buy points. Guaranteed rentals, phony buy-backs, great trading power that never seems to work. Points aren't perfect, and you have to use common sense regarding reservations, but the flexibility beats the fixed week system hands down. I've dealt with both and wouldn't sell a fixed week to family members or a neighbor unless they were happy going back to their home resort every year. And Fairfield points required to stay at a resort won't/can't change, the price of acquisition just goes up over the years. We don't force our owners to buy more points. So please save the " what happens when the points go up" heat for the guests that you're trying to push a fixed or floating week on."
    • AND: --" Points are fine for people who want them. I don't want them. I own 7 float weeks, have been an owner for 19 years, and have never had a problem with flexibility. Ever heard of Bonus Weeks and Instant Getaways, etc.? Cruises, airfare, all of it has been available to me through RCI and II without having to give up anything for it. What I object to is the notion that I'll be forced to `upgrade' to RCI Points whether I want to or not just because RCI and the ts industry have decided what's good for me. When that day comes, I'll donate my timeshares to my church and rent my vacations from ResortQuest or RCI Holiday Network. It's cheaper that way anyhow."
    • March 19: --" RE: pitching heat, are you trying to suggest that people selling points don't pitch heat? You can't be serious, Fairfield especially has had some of the biggest heat merchants in the business working for them, and so does Sunterra and other outfits selling points clubs, and the people selling RCI Points need fire extinguishers at the tables. Get real."
    • AND: --" As a Trendwest owner and a fixed week owner (50 year lease!) let me weigh in on the argument. First, if you want to go to the same place every year a fixed week is great until the resort starts showing it’s age. Mine was Gold Crown, now its RID. Has this affected my trading power? It seems to have. Do I feel my investment paid off, absolutely.

      With points I own 54 mostly new resorts to visit. I can book a year out with relative certainty and get anything I want, but I like being able to go a few days here and there, especially locally with all that’s going on. Is trendwest making lots of money? I hope so, it means more resorts for me. When you compare price $15,000 for a two bedroom red week anywhere, anytime, or as much as three weeks off peak, and compare it to Marriott Tahoe at 30,000 for one week, with holidays blacked out. With the HOA setting maintenance it's 400 vs 900+ at Marriott, a great value.

      I think the worst deal is a floating week at one place, no guarantee of space, high cost, one resort. If you like a place, get a fixed week at a good time, otherwise get floating time in a large points based system so you can pick the time, location and size you need.
      "

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People on the Move:
  • The Playa del Sol Group of Puerto Vallarta Mexico has named Jose Manuel Castello to the newly formed position of Corporate Director of Sales and Marketing. His primary responsibilities include the sales and marketing of the hotel aspects of the Group's resorts in Puerto Vallarta, including Lindo Mar in Conchas Chinas Beach, Playa del Sol at Los Muertos Beach and the new Playa del Sol Grand in Nuevo Vallarta.

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